Thursday, April 10, 2008

Ապրիլի 9 ը ոչ թե վերջը, այլ սկիզբն է այդ սրբազան պայքարի:

Ապրիլի 9-ին, "քաղաքակիրթ" աշխարհի օրհնությամբ, Հայաստանում հաստատված ավազակապետական վարչախմբի մի պարագլխին փոխարինեց մեկ ուրիշը: Փոխարինեց զանգվածային ընտրակեղծիքների, աննախադեպ բռնությունների, քաղաքական հալածանքների եւ խաղաղ ցուցարարների դեմ կազմակերպված սահմռկեցուցիչ սպանդի միջոցով:

Արեւմուտքը բավարարվեց հայաստանյան իրադարձություններին վերաբերող արտաքուստ խիստ, բայց իրականում դատարկ ու անպատասխանատու հայտարարություններով, կամա թե ակամա նպաստելով հանցագործ իշխանությունների վերարտադրությանը:Եւրոպական կազմակերպությունները, առաջնորդվելով քաղաքական նկատառումներով եւ կրկնակի ստանդարտներով, բռնեցին ոչ թե ժողովրդավարության, ազատության եւ իրավական պետության գաղափարներով տոգորված Հայաստանի նոր քաղաքացիական հասարակության, այլ անօրինական վարչախմբի կողմը:

Առերեւույթ կայունության ապահովման շահագրգռությամբ, բայց ծածկաբար Ղարաբաղյան հակամարտության կարգավորման գործընթացում Հայաստանի դիրքերը թուլացնելու նպատակով, Արեւմուտքը նախընտրեց մեր երկրում ունենալ խոցելի լեգիտիմությամբ օժտված բռնապետություն, քան ժողովրդի վստահությունը վայելող իշխանություն:

Անկախ, սակայն, միջազգային հանրության այս վրդովեցուցիչ վերաբերմունքից, ակնհայտ է, որ հայ ժողովուրդը, հավատարիմ մնալով ազատության եւ ժողովրդավարության գաղափարներին, չի համակերպվել եւ երբեւէ չի համակերպվելու իր կամքի բռնի ոտնահարման նմանօրինակ փաստի հետ:

Պատահական չէ, որ նորընծա բռնազավթչի երդման արարողությունը տեղի ունեցավ մի կողմից՝ ոստիկանության եւ բանակի ստվարախումբ գումարտակների սվինների ներքո, մյուս կողմից՝ համաժողովրդական ցասման ու բողոքի զանգվածային միջոցառումների ուղեկցությամբ: Այդ միջոցառումների շարքում կարեւոր տեղ էր զբաղեցնում նաեւ բանտերում եւ ազատության մեջ գտնվող բազմաթիվ քաղաքական գործիչների ու ազատամարտիկների հայտարարած հացադուլը:

Գիտակցելով հանդերձ քաղաքական պայքարի այդ ծայրահեղ միջոցի կարեւորությունը եւ խորապես գնահատելով հացադուլավորների սխրանքը, ես այնուամենայնիվ կոչ եմ անում՝ այս պահից դադարեցնել հացադուլը: Ձեր առողջությունը, անկոտրում կամքը եւ վճռականությունը անհրաժեշտ են համաժողովրդական պայքարի հետագա հանգրվաններում ավելի արդյունավետ ներդրվելու համար: Ապրիլի 9-ը ոչ թե վերջը, այլ սկիզբն է այդ սրբազան պայքարի, որի դրսեւորման քաղաքական եղանակներն առաջիկայում հասանելի կլինեն մեր հասարակությանը:

Կասկած չունեմ, որ համաժողովրդական շարժման հարատեւությունը կստիպի նաեւ միջազգային հանրությանը՝ փոխելու իր վերաբերմունքը մեր պետության նկատմամբ:

10 ապրիլի, 2008 թ.
Լեւոն Տեր Պետրոսյան

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

http://armenianpolitics.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/the-armenian-revolution-a-failed-attempt-or-work-in-progress/

Anonymous said...

how do we know that the inauguration even happenned.
may be it was staged like the American landing on the moon :)

tzitzernak said...

I think many of us wish it had just been staged, March 1st had never happened, and that the OSCE, the US, and the EC had all condemned the election resulting in more support for the Constitutional court and ultimately a runoff between SS and LTP.
I had a dream, and now i have a dream...

reflective said...

Too bad LTP was born 100 years too late. He speaks as if he a Bolshevik town crier traveling through the villages of Russia.

I am surprised so many Armenians have fallen for this neo-Bolshevik hysteria AGAIN. You would think we collectively learned our lesson after the abortion of 20 years ago. Are we as politically naive and full of self-hatred as they say?

mayranoush said...

The 'civilized' West brought us Pinochet and other human rights 'respecting'(!?!?) leaders...but nothing lasts forever. The struggle for a more democratic Armenia must and, I hope, will continue.

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

Self-styled "reflective" said: "He speaks as if he a Bolshevik town crier traveling through the villages of Russia."

Except, if reality has any bearing on your judgments at all, he's the founding president of Armenia, a philology PhD, and a man who in a matter months sparked a movement so inspired it took murder, the military, and a 21 day state of emergency to temporarily slow it down. And he did all of this without the help of television.

Any thinking person could not but help respecting Levon Ter-Petrossian.

Tell me, self-styled "reflective," when you say the ridiculous things you say, do really believe that you aren't going to be the one that is going to come out looking like a complete partisan nut full of hate, envy, and filthy intentions?

What this movement is trying to do, for the thousandth time, is push mafia out of government and establish some semblance of real democracy that allows Armenians to live free, with dignity, and in control of their destinies.

How can a person possibly see this as naive and full of self-hatred? Knowing and admitting to one's self that something has gone terribly wrong is the exact opposite of naive. Caring about your family enough to risk confrontations with police armed to the teeth in order to bring about change is the exact opposite of self-hatred.

What kind of sick, corrupt person would say such things, spit in the people's face like that, and step on and denigrate their best hopes?

What would you have happen? Would you kill their hopes and have them live under tyranny as slaves and be resigned to that fate like some kind of beaten animal? What kind of thoroughly sick, repulsive, and malign idea is that to be spreading around?

Get your shit together and take some responsibility for what you say, already.

And try to remember that there is a very big difference between the Bolshevik Revolution and the Armenian independence movement of the late 80s, idiot.

mayranoush said...

Armen, I don't think we should waste our energy on responding to Repetitive (aka Reflective). He is an agent provocateur who enjoys repeating the same unfounded and intellectually bankrupt arguments over and over again. Tootak e.

Better to focus our energies more positively and to think how to maintain the positive momentum of the struggle for more democracy in Armenia.

reflective said...

You say: the movement is trying to "push mafia out of government."

Clearly not. It is trying to replace "your mafiosos" with "my mafiosos". Why else did LTP appeal to the oligarchs on day 1 of his campaign? Why else did the crowds welcome Lady Hakob and Jahangiryan to the flock? Why else was Grzo himself the chief financier of the campaign?

Also do not change history: LTP did not lead an independence movement in the late 80s. he was against Armenia having an its own army, and ridiculed those who wanted to have a constitution.

This was not a movement for democracy. Movements for democracy do not predicate themselves on hate and racism. It was a cheap power struggle where many innocent disgruntled people got swept up in the (false) hope. I look forward to a healthier opposition now that LTP and his cronies are out of the picture.
And let's keep in mind that LTP authored and instituted the very ills you are yapping about, he can be the 1st president or 2nd or 22nd.

I know you get wound up in hysterics any time people argue against your hero LTP, but no need to get personal.

You are free to ignore my comments, too.

tzitzernak said...

"LTP ... was against Armenia having an its own army, and ridiculed those who wanted to have a constitution"

What on earth are you talking about? Who's rewriting history now??

reflective said...

tzitzernak - Let's see if the LTP fanclub on this blog is up to the task: The honest ones will help those of us (me included) whose memories are not as good as they once were.

How about quotes like "our defense lies in our defenselessness"...I'll try and dig more and find, but you may not like the history.

nazarian said...

I have this eerie feeling that the time for the peaceful fight that Levon advocates has passed.

I hope I'm wrong.

mayranoush said...

One thing which will be a legacy of these farcical elections are the widespread fear they have instilled in people.

Of course there will always be people with selective memories or Orwellian/post-modernist tendencies who would like to re-write the past. But the facts are that this type and extent of fear among the population (much more than what existed in early 1990s) has only recently emerged thanks to the widespread arrests, harassment of opposition members, ban on demonstrations, etc. This will have consequences for any opposition activism and organizing.

And I guess my grasp of Armenian history is not as good as I thought. Reflective, you seem like quite the expert. Would you kindly inform us who led the independence movement in the 1980s if it was not Levon and the Karabakh Committee?

mayranoush said...

Anonymous 8:10 thanks for posting the link to a very interesting analysis.

reflective said...

If I had to identify one person who led the independence movement, it would probably be Hayrikyan, who pushed for independent Armenia, a constitution, an army, and other elements of independence.

However, independence was in fact a by-product of the Soviet collapse, forced upon LTP and the rest of the Karabakh Committee. Anyway, within the Committee itself, Rafael Ghazaryan was the idealogue before being pushed out by LTP/Vano etc.

mayranoush said...

Reflective,
I see that for you it is anyone but Levon. It seems to me that you have such a deep hatred for that man that it doesn't matter if what you say isn't based on historical fact. You would rather rewrite the past. May I remind you that he became president in 1991 with over 80% of the vote in Armenia's one and only free and fair elections. How much popular support did Hayrikian have? Or for that matter Sos Sargsyan?

Anyway, before you try to argue that those elections were not free and fair, I suggest you do some research into Armenian, Russian and Western sources. Perhaps you will find and share one negative assessment of those first elections. By negative I mean that those elections were considered rigged or were followed by mass demonstrations by the opposition.

reflective said...

Mayranoush - I am simply stating history. I know that LTP won the elections in 91. I also know that he was the architech of Falsified Armenian Elections in 95 and 96, the most disgraceful in our history.

None of the above facts changes LTP's historic position against independence. That is also well-documented in any language you want.

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

Self-styled "reflective," you're obviously a dashnak, right?

Let's clear up the air here a little bit. You've made the claim that LTP didn't lead the independence movement. This claim is preposterous to begin with, but you've made it.

We're lacking a good historical source here, but for settling this question, we don't need on. You can be proven wrong by just one fact--he got 80% of the '91 vote.

Unlike us, the people in living in that period, living that history, day-by-day, suffering its consequences, and you better believe aware of every detail of what was going were in a far better position to answer the question: "Who is the leader?"

Their judgment: Levon Ter-Petrossian.

Period. End of question. That is unless you would like to take ridiculous position that 80% didn't know what they were talking about, while you, clearly not even in command of the history of that period, know better.

Are you? I wouldn't put it past you. You're a dashnak after all; you guys specialize in the denial of reality.

Anyway, that's point number 1.

reflective said...

Armen Fila - I never said that LTP did not win the election. I said that he was not pro-independence. He was against the creation of a constitution, against the formation of a national army, etc.

I am not a dashnak, but I find your preoccupation with off-the-topic issues amusing.

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

Off topic?

You made the claim that LTP wasn't the leader of the independence movement, didn't you?

And I just debunked it. You say you aren't a dashnak. Fine. I still debunked it. What "off topic"?

Either disprove my argument, or concede defeat on this point, then we can go down the list and debunk your ludicrous claims one by one.

reflective said...

relax armen. you haven't debunked anything. LTP did not lead an independence movement. He was elected 1st president of Armenia in 91. Two different things. I won't repeat myself - re-read the posts and stop getting so worked up.

Maybe you can now prove I am a Catholic or a lefty or a vegetarian too.

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

I'm as calm and cool as a stone in a brook 'neath a shady tree, my friend.

And I did debunk your claim. What you are trying to dodge is the connection between the 80% and the question of who led the independence movement.

Perhaps you don't read arguments you nevertheless respond to.

Read:

"Unlike us, the people in living in that period, living that history, day-by-day, suffering its consequences, and you better believe aware of every detail of what was going-on, were in a far better position to answer the question: "Who is the leader?"

Their judgment: Levon Ter-Petrossian."

So, again, that pretty much debunks your claim. I don't know if you're a vegetarian or even a fish taco that's learned how to type, but the evidence does suggest that you have a hard time facing reality.

reflective said...

I did not create the connection, nor am i dodging it.

Let's start again. LTP did not lead the independence movement. IF I had to pick an individual who led it, it would be Hayrikyan and the dissident movement he led in the 70s and 80s.

When LTP moved Rafael Ghazaryan out from the inner circle of the Karabakh Committee, he became a candidate for elections, which he won.

He was against independence, which was gifted to Armenia following the collapse of the soviet union. LTP was against components which comprise independence: an army, a constitution, etc.

as far as the people's assessment of LTP? They voted AGAINST him and his cronies in 95, 96, and again in 08.

what is confusing?

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

You said LTP was not the leader of the independence movement.

In 1991, 80% population said LTP was the leader of the independence movement.

Therefore, you are wrong.

It seems to me that if you want to have an honest debate, you have to accede this.

Anonymous said...

he was one of the leaders of independence movement, it was him hayrikyan manukyan, ghazaryan and a few others.

Vahagn said...

i see you are a big fan of using words like "idiot". Does it not obviously show you think of yourself as a genius dear idiot!!??
go f*** yourself and dont try to show you are so masculine, especially when you talk to women on different blogs, like on this one, couple of lines down. If you are male i mean:)))